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Polyjuice potion more or less guarantees that Graves is alive somewhere in order for Grindlewald to keep up the disguise, a la Moody in the HP series, and Colin could potentially come back to play him again. Transfiguration makes it much more likely that Captain Sparrowald is all we get from now on, because it doesn't require the living person to keep it up. I don't like it.

Transfiguration also means that they can give Captain Sparrowald the elbow at any point in the franchise and make Graveswald the default visual with no additional explanation. Additionally, moving from polyjuice to transfiguration means that the real Graves can show up any time, anywhere, completely unharmed with no need to explain his captivity.

What's actually bugging me is I haven't seen any official sources saying Graves is outright dead. Which is something JKR would say if it was over - done, dusted n' deceased - for a character.

I get the feeling that the one contract they didn't lock down for the sequels is Farrell's.

This is a good point! (I've not been reading much about things like you mentioned the contracts, etc., because I honestly don't have the energy for that stuff anymore so I'm glad it comes up in these places). I hadn't thought of that. I guess there'd have to be some explanation of where he'd been, though, even if it was just being in league with Grindelwald? (Is that what you're getting at? Sorry. I've not slept in like 3 days ha).

And, yeah, true! I guess it's all speculation, really. And speculation, fan theories and all that often does my head in.

(Contract!Anon) I think a lot of people are panicking unnecessarily 'cause there aren't any books to adapt from, and they're not accustomed/comfortable with the concept of idea-script-movie without there being a pre-published source to act as a preview of what to expect. They're not seeing the creative advantage that this lack of a pre-published source means NOTHING in this universe is foretold, and the fact there is this change (polyjuice to transfiguration) in Graves' canon means JKR's considering Graves' position in the wider movie series.

Basically, polyjuice just puts Graves in a box. It 100% guarantees his survival, but it still means he has to be held prisoner in a location that's close to/and always accessible for Grindelwald. However, transfiguration means Graves could literally be anywhere. Grindelwald could've transfigured Graves from a photograph, therefore he doesn't need to keep Graves alive 'cause he was never within range to kill or capture him in the first place.

That frees up JKR to do a lot more with the Graves character. She can essentially bring him back as a Grindelwald follower OR a poor innocent soul who didn't know Grindelwald stole his face. He can show up in any location, capacity or allegiance now with ANY explanation. And she couldn't do that if Graves was being farmed for polyjuice and stuck in a box.

This is what I'm getting at. JKR's just turned Graves into a free square on the bingo card of the entire series and all she needs is a decent idea to utilise him AND Colin Farrell. Even Sparrowald, the transfiguration reasoning means that they can replace Depp at will if he continues to be a PR and box office liability. But, like, everything that involves specific actors and their roles and retention is a contract/production bureaucracy thing.

I don't do speculation often but I just feel like I'm the only person around these parts who's THRILLED with the transfiguration news 'cause it's, like, way to install an 'in case of emergencies, press to summon Colin Farrell' button.

Re: contract stuff, from pretty much every interview I have ever watched it sounds like CF would jump at the chance of going back if he was asked, and as far as I know for potential franchises is common practice to have everyone sign contracts for multiple films, just in case.
However, JK and Yates seemed thrilled with Depp last I heard. But yeah I agree that transfiguration doesn't necessarily mean something bad. Original!Graves may be dead, but Farrell's performance as Grindelwald was super interesting and I'd love to see that again.

One thing is to borrow someone's face, the other is pretending to be them. Sure Grindelwald could observe Graves' routine beforehand and then interrogate him after capture, but even if Grindelwald choose Graves because he keeps himself aloof from everybody, it's still a lot of info. Like to be successful he has to know things like how to react if one of the aurors get injured, what to write in paperwork, what is this form for, all the office inside jokes etc.

I think Grindelwald would have kept Graves alive for this info. In my imagination he visited Graves regularly to ask him question like What did Picquery mean by this remark? What happened on the mission to Baltimore in '23 on of the aurors mentioned? etc.

Unless he decided to just wing it and people at MACUSA are just that unobservant.

I think Grindelwald would have kept Graves alive for this info.
I absolutely agree with this. Unless Grindelwald spent years on creating an alias in America he had to take over someone else’s life to get into the position that Graves is in, because surely nobody would appoint an unknown wizard who simply knocks on MACUSA’s door one day as Director of Magical Security.
If he was impersonating another person he needs as much info as he can get, so it’s sensible to keep that person alive and close by to have access to any information you might need whenever you need it.

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